Would like to chat with someone about the Detailed Menu. Specifically, getting to the Humidity setting. I’ve read the manual but missing a step somewhere along the way.
Thanks.  

The humidity is adjusted from that knob on the top of the humidifier. The higher number heats it up higher thus evaporating more water. Don't turn it up too high or you'll get rainout. You'll have to experiment.

Tommyboy: Thanks. I felt the unit was not working but earlier today cranked it up and watched the light. Finally felt a little heat from the plate. I had not gone past three on the settings and once or twice down to two or none, thus not much heat. There is a setting on the Detailed or Clinical menu enabling one to turn this feature off or make the knob inoperative or ineffective.
I appreciate your reply.

I have the same setup as you, only I don't have access to some of the menu. The clinician has denied access to certain pieces of it. I'm wondering if this is your issue as well. I have noticed that some folks on this forum have more access than others with their machines. I guess it depends on the person who set the machine up.

Pauly, you really shouldn't use the clinical menu. It is viewed as the same as if you were to mess with your medicine’s prescription.

Yes, i agree. I was only saying that some others seem to have more access to their menus than others. I only can adjust the ramp time or the type of mask that i may be using which is ok by my RT.

Pauly: Yes there are two menus. On my machine one shows up as Clinical rather than Detailed as the book illustrates. Of course to get to the Detailed menu you have to know the right combination of keys to push.  The Personal preference items are on the hidden menu for some reason.
tommyboy: I respectfully disagree with your comment " It is viewed as the same as if you were to mess with your medicine’s prescription."  Well  I guess I don’t disagree with the statement,  I just resent the implications of stupidity. Would you take two or three pills a day if your prescription said take one? Yet you have access to the whole bottle, right?
You don’t get a prescription for turning the smartstart feature on or off. It's a personal preference. The same as the leak alert.
I paid for the machine. It’s my prerogative to change some personal settings to my liking and if it so happens to be on a menu that is locked (supposedly) then I’m going to find out how to get there. I know they don’t really want you there. Some people can screw up anything.
I’ve only been in the program about 4 weeks. Done a lot of home work on the computer and am qualified to make or change some personal preferences, one way or another.

The last thing I’m implying is stupidity. However, there are safeguards built into these devices that are mandated by FDA. I’m sure if there are any comfort changes you desire your doctor, sleep center or DME would be happy to make any of these adjustments in order to facilitate compliance. I’m sure you paid plenty of money to warrant that.

Tommyboy: Give me a break.
What does the FDA have to do with me  wanting to be alerted if the mask is leaking, if I find the humidifier comfortable, if I want a little more or less humidity, etc.
OH yes,  I’m sure the Doctor, Sleep center and the DME would love for us to be attached at the hip. How many calls do you think it would take before you are charged for calling them to do something you could do for yourself. I know, this is part of their job but for how long.  I think this is part of the problem with the younger generation. Why do for yourself when you can get someone else to do it for you.
Sorry Pal I can’t see it.
 Have you ever thought about checking to see if the settings are those actually prescribed by the Doctor, or do you take the DME’s word as Gospel. Could the tech have made a mistake, no way. Sorry but I don’t buy it . Good help is hard to find and even then when delegating, follow up, follow up, follow up.

Please enlighten  me as to what settings on the Clinical menu of the S8 Elite are mandated by the FDA.

Don’t mean to be argumentative about this but lets get back to reality.
 It’s my money, I paid for it, I want to use some of the features incorporated therein. And I might add, without spending hours on the phone, quite often lately with someone who knows less than I do about the machine. Have you ever had that happen to you? When I asked the DME about accessing the menu his answer was the same as yours. You are not supposed to go there. Would you believe the DME tried to con me by saying he didn’t know how to change the menu. The next day I had him come out and change a setting, the ramp time. Big deal. Must have taken a crash course, yes?  I wonder who set it up originally, the tooth fairy??  Been around too long for that stuff.
Any way, maybe you can use some of these thoughts in the design of your dream machine. Pun intended.
Thanks for the input.  

Back to the original question - I have been in the Clinician's Menu - and I do not believe there is any setting for the humidifier in there - no folks it's not being hidden from us.  Actually I also have a copy of the clinicians manual (got it on ebay - LOL) - and I looked to see if I was missing something.

The humidaire 3i is controlled by the knob on top of the unit.  I agree it doesn't seem to do the job adequately - but that is a whole separate discussion.

You’re right rj. Do whatever you want to it. I’ll send you a Torx screwdriver.

tosleepperchancetodream:

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Back to the original question - I have been in the Clinician's Menu - and I do not believe there is any setting for the humidifier in there - no folks it's not being hidden from us. Actually I also have a copy of the clinicians manual (got it on ebay - LOL) - and I looked to see if I was missing something.

Either it is there or it isn't. You don't sound too sure when you say "I don't believe there is any setting for the humidifier in there." You say You have the manual, is it there or not?? ResMed S8 Elite, Users manual, Page 20, How to use the detailed menu, 4th item under settings. What does that say?? Would you like me to scan a copy and send it to you?

tommyboy: No answers to any of my questions in the earlier post? I rest my case.  Looking forward to receiving the "Torx" screwdriver. Which menu will that be under?

A side note: Since you are a designer of CPAP machines, as listed in your Profile, I would have thought you would have  benefitted from some of our bantering about the menus. What's the old saying "KISS".    

RJ -

Good catch - my phraseology makes it clear my head was firmly up my a$$ last nite - not sure what my brain was thinking.  Firstly to be clear I have the Vantage, not the Elite - but it should not make a difference.  There IS a setting for humidifier under settings in both the user and clinicians's menus.  It is described as follows:  "provides a setting option for a humidifier or front cap if one is required."  

The manual goes on to say that the machine "automatically detects the presence of a humidaire 3i."

Bottom line the humidifier is controlled with the knob at the top of the unit, not through the menu.

tosleepperchancetodream:
I appreciate your honesty and suspected you might have talking about another machine. Granted the top knob plays the major part but only if the setting in the Detailed menu is correct. I was not sure that the setting in the menu was appropriate. In the book the detailed menu setting shows  ( Humid:none) and then the word (change). Since I didn't think it was working I wanted to see if it said that or something else. The real issue is my objection to not being able to verify the setting. That's what I was seeking help on originally before the issue got off on several other areas.
I guess I have CRS. It's there. I'll find it and no foul, no harm or is it the other way around?
Thanks for your input.