My lowest was 74% and i was below 90% for 92% of the night. That's as much as they told me.


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ToHellAndBack wrote:

Todzo wrote:

carla wrote:

My lowest was 58% but i spent the entire 6 hrs under 80% Woke up with an oxygen deprivation headache every day for at least 5 years. I have permanent neurological damage.
You can hold your breath long enough to affect your saturation level but your body won't allow you to do it long enough to injure youreself, you pass out and resume breathing.
 >^..^Carla

Hi Carla!

As I have studied the neurodegeneration severe sleep apnea brings about I have also been encouraged to understand that the brain is "plastic".  I have seen several reports on the military victims of severe brain injury that have recovered their control of hands, legs, and other affected parts through concentrated retraining.

I remember that Senator Strom Thurman, the longest serving and oldest ever senator (served to age 99!) memorized three pages a day to keep his mind sharp!  It quite apparently worked.

I am looking into therapies to recover the executive function, memory, and muscle tonus lost by the ravages of the disease.   I do intend to share my findings when they are a bit more organized.

Take heart, there my yet be hope for a more productive and enjoyable life!

Tods

I am aware of the plasticity theories now popular in Neuroscience. It contrasts with the old school Neurology belief that once the brain is damaged, thats it you cant recover what you lost. Old school Neurologists used to preach "take care of your  brain, its the only one you will ever have."

I tend to put more  stock in the old school  Neurology belief that the brain is nerve tissue and is sensitive. I  am not very confident in the "plasticity" theories of modern neuroscience and I believe plasticity is something environmentally oriented neuroscience researchers believe in.

Ask a Parkinsons patient if their brain has any plasticity left...

Ask the schizophrenic who has developed good insight into their brain illness if it has done their brain any favors...

Ask the stroke patient if they are TRULY normal after the stroke...

I think the best treatment for brain health is prevention and prevention means treating OSA in its early stages, being CPAP compliant with good followup from a sleep doctor and losing weight.

Fred

I have read of many reverses of Parkinson's.  It my well be an environmental illness, both in terms of actual materials (e.g. aluminum) and neural stimulation (e.g. TV and video games).

Most schizophrenic people will not admit that they have a disease let alone understand how it came to be from brain function issues.  If one did, he is moving or indeed has moved toward healing.

The brain does take a long time to repair itself once damaged, and likely a stroke patient is older and will not receive the kind of personal support and encouragement they need to recover.

Fred, I absolutely agree that prevention is the best way.  The truth is that our ignorance, presumption, lack of support for one another, and tendency to avoid personal discipline has and will bring damage to many of us in these upcoming days.  Neuroregeneration is a known process now, although not close to fully understood.  Please pardon us as we proceed with hope to find out what we actually can do.

Thanks!

Todzo

I wish there was some kind of standard format for these sleep studies.  Reading mine, I can't really tell how long I spend at less than 90%.  My "sleep efficiency" is 87%. What does that mean?

I have average of 94% saturation but it drops to 87% during REM sleep.  That's only a portion of the night so it should mean my brain is in great shape but if there's one thing I have a real problem with it's the fog .  I seldom feel like I'm going to actually fall asleep in an inappropriate situation but I'm CONSTANTLY forgetting things.  

Anybody know how provigil affects this?  My doctor is pushing it on me but I'm not enchanted with the idea and I'll have to duke it out with the insurance company.  Is it worth it?

I have read of many reverses of Parkinson's.  It my well be an environmental illness, both in terms of actual materials (e.g. aluminum) and neural stimulation (e.g. TV and video games).

Most schizophrenic people will not admit that they have a disease let alone understand how it came to be from brain function issues.  If one did, he is moving or indeed has moved toward healing.

The brain does take a long time to repair itself once damaged, and likely a stroke patient is older and will not receive the kind of personal support and encouragement they need to recover.

Fred, I absolutely agree that prevention is the best way.  The truth is that our ignorance, presumption, lack of support for one another, and tendency to avoid personal discipline has and will bring damage to many of us in these upcoming days.  Neuroregeneration is a known process now, although not close to fully understood.  Please pardon us as we proceed with hope to find out what we actually can do.

Thanks!

Todzo[/quote]

Parkinsons is a progressive neurological disease that has a poor prognosis and leads to death. Please cite sources (credible sources BTW) that backs up your claim that you have  read many cases of  "reversible parkinsons." Sounds like pure  bs to me.

While there is something to neuroplasticity, the bottom line is  believers in it are romantic  fools who read too much. Once the human brain is serious damaged, particularly once you get past the stage of youth, the odds are is you  will never be the same.

We only have one brain...we'd all do best to take care of our brains and prevent brain injuries.

Fred


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Hi Fred!

I regret offending you.  Please forgive me.

May we both find an easier way!

Todzo

I'm sorry I went off on you. I have been going through testing for breast cancer, and you hit one of many exposed nerves. I AM HAVING A LUMPECTOMY MONDAY MORNING, AND I AM SCARED AND THAT BRINGS OUT THE POLARBEAR. (VERY GRUMPY "GRAMMAVADER)