There is a new device on the market to treat positional sleep disorders.

It is Zzoma positional sleeper.

I am looking for feedback from anyone who has tried it.

Thanks

It is cleasly stated to be used only for snoring and not a treatment for apnea and I am thankful and grateful that they have the integrity to display prominently on the front of their web site:

FDA Warnings
Zzoma users should consult with their physicians for evaluation of obstructive sleep apnea or other respiratory disorders if your snoring is accompanied by any of the following symptoms:

Frequent excessive daytime sleepiness
Periods of not breathing, as observed by bed partners
Awaking short of breath, choking or gagging

Vicki


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Friedrich must of had apnea.

I would never want to use this replace CPAP, but if there was a guy/gal who simply refused the pressure (which is a large number), then this thing would be better than nothing.

Heck, if your OSA is positional, then this may reduce a nights AHI from severe to moderate, or something similar. If its all about staying off your back, then there isnt a reason to believe that this will not help.

With that said, use CPAP if possible. You can always make something that do what this thing will do and it will not cost you near as much.

Most people who are not successful with CPAP have not had good support and followup.  Before permanently using something like this, I would prefer they either find a better DME or doctor for follow up care and/or spend time on a support forum.

I am not sure that the majority of noncompliance is because of pressure issues.  The main compliants here are related to mask leaks and discomfort, humidity problems and exhalatory relief, which as you know, can be overcome with EPR and C-flex.

There have been literally thousands of people who have become successful and compliant CPAP users (and therefore have compensated apnea) who have been helped here.

Vicki


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That which does not kill you makes you stronger-Friedrich Nietzsche
Friedrich must of had apnea.

Vicki wrote:

Most people who are not successful with CPAP have not had good support and followup.  Before permanently using something like this, I would prefer they either find a better DME or doctor for follow up care and/or spend time on a support forum.

I am not sure that the majority of noncompliance is because of pressure issues.  The main compliants here are related to mask leaks and discomfort, humidity problems and exhalatory relief, which as you know, can be overcome with EPR and C-flex.

There have been literally thousands of people who have become successful and compliant CPAP users (and therefore have compensated apnea) who have been helped here.

Vicki

I am not going to disagree with you, but you have to consider that a lot users that come to this board WANT to chat with people who do use it, want to find ways to better adapt, want to find out why they are having problems, ETC. This board is missing out on all of the people who simply refuse and drift off into the sunset.

My point was that this device, no matter simplistic it is, is better than nothing at all. Thats all. I advocate CPAP, but, as im sure you know, many people simply refuse.

As a matter of fact, I had a patient several weeks ago who woke up feeling great after a split night study. I began talking to him and he said that he only came because his wife made him and there (and I quote) was no chance in hell he was going to use the device. He ripped his prescription up at his follow up. I dont plan on seeing him on this board anytime soon.

Im not arguing and, while I think that you are very knowledgeable, this board sees a lot of people who really really want to get better. There are a lot of stubborn people who want nothing to do with it and in some cases do nothing with it. Thats all.

Yes and that is exactly my point.  If someone is here really trying, I want to point them in the best direction.

I unfortunately do know exactly what you are talking about.  I could not get my brother to have a sleep study, even though he has PACs and atrial fib., (my PACs are much worse without my CPAP) even though his doctors told him when he was in ICU after back surgery to get a sleep study because he was desating so bad due to OSA.  He finally recently had a sleep study but is not being compliant and won’t talk to me about it.

I am on the ASAA board, I moderate this forum and I cannot get my own brother treated. In an extreme case of sibling rivalry, I asked him why he waited so long and he said "I hated admitting you were right".  I really love my kid brother and this is quite painful in addition to the other extremely resistant/in denial people I have come across.

Vicki


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That which does not kill you makes you stronger-Friedrich Nietzsche
Friedrich must of had apnea.

Vicki wrote:

Yes and that is exactly my point.  If someone is here really trying, I want to point them in the best direction.

I unfortunately do know exactly what you are talking about.  I could not get my brother to have a sleep study, even though he has PACs and atrial fib., (my PACs are much worse without my CPAP) even though his doctors told him when he was in ICU after back surgery to get a sleep study because he was desating so bad due to OSA.  He finally recently had a sleep study but is not being compliant and won’t talk to me about it.

I am on the ASAA board, I moderate this forum and I cannot get my own brother treated. In an extreme case of sibling rivalry, I asked him why he waited so long and he said "I hated admitting you were right".  I really love my kid brother and this is quite painful in addition to the other extremely resistant/in denial people I have come across.

Vicki

Point taken.

I would still recommend this to anyone out there that has positional OSA and is not willing to do ANYTHING about it. But like Vicki has eluded to, use CPAP period.